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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:20 am 
Hey those of you that are running pc20 what does it mean by lost setting, mine is in the mail. Also are any of the exhausts listed as free as the rpm? Just trying to get an idea

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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:40 pm 
ENGINE
Motor mods: Big Bore 58.1cc
Lightened Flyhweel: Yes
HO Cam: Yes
PC/JC20 Carb (yes/no): Yes
Brand of (carb keihin / sheng wey): Sheng Wey
main jet: 80
slow jet: 30
needle setting: Richest
Which filter on carb: Came with carb
Exhaust: Modified "glass pack" NCY-R

Transmission
Variator: Polini
Roller weights and brand: 5.5g Dr.Pulley sliders
Clutch springs (blue or pink): Stock
Gear Kit: Edit: Switched from Met final to full Met gear set

Other
cdi: Daytona
hitting rev limit (yes / no): n/a

Wheel
Rear Wheel size: 10-inch
Rear Tire size: 130/90-10
PSI: 32
Tire Brand: Pirelli

Environment Factor
Elevation: Sea level
Temperature at time of test: 80F
Weight: 195
Top Speed Flats (no wind): Edit: (with full Met gears) 53.5mph
Top Speed downhill (no wind): 55mph-ish. I don't bomb downhills.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:50 pm 
this thread needs pictures :D

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:31 pm 
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this thread needs pictures :D

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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:06 pm 
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ENGINE
Motor mods: Big Bore 58.1cc
Lightened Flyhweel: Yes
HO Cam: Yes
PC/JC20 Carb (yes/no): Yes
Brand of (carb keihin / sheng wey): Sheng Wey
main jet: 80
slow jet: 30
needle setting: Richest
Which filter on carb: Came with carb
Exhaust: Modified "glass pack" NCY-R

Transmission
Variator: Polini
Roller weights and brand: 5.5g Dr.Pulley sliders
Clutch springs (blue or pink): Stock
Gear Kit: Edit: Switched from Met final to full Met gear set

Other
cdi: Daytona
hitting rev limit (yes / no): n/a

Wheel
Rear Wheel size: 10-inch
Rear Tire size: 130/90-10
PSI: 32
Tire Brand: Pirelli

Environment Factor
Elevation: Sea level
Temperature at time of test: 80F
Weight: 195
Top Speed Flats (no wind): Edit: (with full Met gears) 53.5mph
Top Speed downhill (no wind): 55mph-ish. I don't bomb downhills.


For ALL those mods + full met gears that top speed is terrible, we have a guy here running almost bone stock with just a variator getting 53mph on an MRP :meh: Im sure it accelerates nice though! Are you tuned specifically for accell??

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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:12 pm 
ENGINE
Motor mods: Big Bore 58.1cc
Lightened Flyhweel: Yes
HO Cam: Yes
Port/Polished: Yes
PC20 Carb (yes/no): Yes
Brand of (carb keihin / sheng wey): Keihin, with JC manifold
main jet: 85
slow jet: 35
needle setting: 2nd from Richest
Which filter on carb: K&N w/ shield, directly on carb
Exhaust: TRC Yoshimura
*This tune feels great~ and right where I want it from my Wideband readings.

Transmission
Variator: Polini
Roller weights and brand: 5.5g rollers
Clutch springs (blue or pink): Stock
Gear Kit: stock. (Met gears sitting in a box... will be going in soon)

Other
cdi: Daytona (questionable if it's working right... bought it used)
hitting rev limit (yes / no): Questionable...

Wheel
Rear Wheel size: 10x5" alloy
Rear Tire size: 130/90-10
PSI: 35
Tire Brand: Pirelli SL26

Environment Factor
Elevation: Sea level
Temperature at time of test: 80F
Weight: 155
Top Speed Flats (no wind): 48mph
Top Speed downhill (no wind): 55mph (there's a new bridge that just opened in my commute path w/ slight downhill)

Comments: I know top speed sucks for all these mods, but acceleration is perfectly fine, and does local traffic well... no problem.. no more fear of being too slow.
It out accellerates stock Ruckus'... (Yes, I know stock is slow as hell), but still.. its a very good improvement. Totally keeps up w/ my buddy's XL125,
so I'm pretty much on par or faster than most friends I ride around with... (mostly stock Rucks and Mets)

I'm hoping w/ the Met gears, and some clutch + variator tuning... I can get it faster. A lighter Lithium batt is on the list too.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:55 pm 
Where you guys get your 58cc big bores besides buying a whole new engine off of jcracing


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:44 pm 
ENGINE
Motor mods:Steadygarage 66.6cc GET
Lightened Flyhweel: Yes
HO Cam: no
Port/Polished: Yes
PC20 Carb (yes/no): PZ20
Brand of (carb keihin / sheng wey): Chinese with JC manifold
main jet: 87
slow jet: 38
needle setting: middle
Which filter on carb: Ruckinronk solidstack, no filter, just mesh
Exhaust: mnnthbx/jardine

Transmission
Variator: Polini
Roller weights: 5g Dr Pulley sliders
Clutch springs (blue or pink): pink. Blue contra spring
Gears: Full metropolitan gearset

Other
cdi: Feign Blaster
throttle: cut 1mm off throttle stop on throttle tube, 2mm off throttle stop on underside of controls. The carb pulls longer than stock throttle pull, this was necessary to open it up fully.

Wheel
Rear Wheel size: 10" NCY 10 spoke alloys
Rear Tire size: stock
PSI: 32
Tire Brand: Buhbuhbuhboppers

Environment Factor
Elevation: 200 feet above sea level
Temperature at time of test: 72F
Weight: I'm 170
Top Speed Flats (no wind): 55mph
Top Speed downhill (no wind): 58mph

Stock-ish rucks sometimes pull on me on steep inclines due to gearing. On any straightaway I flat out pull on a tuned stock bore GET like it aint no thang. There's a lot more top speed to be had, I just don't ever take it on long enough straights to know. Everything tested with a Garmin LM50.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:12 pm 
ENGINE
Motor mods: Big Bore version 1 58 I think
Lightened Flyhweel: No
HO Cam: No
PC/JC20 Carb (yes/no): Yes
Brand of (carb keihin / sheng wey): Keihin
main jet: 95
slow jet: 35
needle setting: 2 from richest
Which filter on carb: Came with carb
Exhaust: Rpm

Transmission
Variator: Daytona
Roller weights and brand: 6 gm Daytona
Clutch springs (blue or pink): Stock
Gear Kit: stock

Other
cdi: Daytona
hitting rev limit (yes / no): n/a

Wheel
Rear Wheel size: dio
Rear Tire size: stock
PSI: uh huh
Tire Brand: Stock nps

Environment Factor
Elevation: Kansas
Temperature at time of test: 100
Weight: 175
Top Speed Flats (no wind): wtf is no wind? 45 into the wind 20-30 which is common. 50-55 with the wind.
Top Speed downhill (no wind): 62 got scared let off

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:56 am 
After reading here I dont see what the hype on the big bores is. Im sure the acceleration is improved but im not seeing many interesting top speed results. I can hit 54 with bad piston rings and a bad head. I run a polini with 6g cheap rollers and polini belt and keep with traffic til i hit the powerband. Someone convince me please!

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 Post subject: Re: Big Bore Setups
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:30 pm 
Keep reading then, GET tuning has come a long way, 49rs are now doing low 60s and come Super Sunday I feel 58cc's will be doing solid mid 60s

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:48 am 
I'm noticing that no one is mentioning the year of the motor.
Does it matter? I have an 04 GET motor and most ppl state the 06's and up are faster.
Wondering how that would translate towards your BB setup.

I'm researching GET BB's now and just had that question.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:01 am 
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG...

but the speed of the 03-05's is limited by a lower rev limit and can be remedied by a newer ECU or a CDI

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:31 pm 
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but the speed of the 03-05's is limited by a lower rev limit and can be remedied by a newer ECU or a CDI


You are correct. 05 down has a lower rev limit and 06+ has a higher one. Idk man bit i can pull 54 and my motor isnt running all that great. At 54 i run out of gear so im sure if i had the met final gear i can do a little better.

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