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 Post subject: Re: pino_jonathan Build thread Occupied Virginia, CSA
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:13 pm 
I bet it's the heat too. I don't know if RTV will help since that's more of a sealant than "glue".

Some pipes have a spring mechanism that holds the can on the header. I figure you just need it to stay on there long enough for the whole thing to heat up and kinda self weld together over time. My can won't come off my header anymore.. it's on there for good. Once it's in place I don't see why you'd ever remove the can from the header.

Maybe some JBweld or weld it for real. Dunno.

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:04 pm 
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I bet it's the heat too. I don't know if RTV will help since that's more of a sealant than "glue".

Some pipes have a spring mechanism that holds the can on the header. I figure you just need it to stay on there long enough for the whole thing to heat up and kinda self weld together over time. My can won't come off my header anymore.. it's on there for good. Once it's in place I don't see why you'd ever remove the can from the header.

Maybe some JBweld or weld it for real. Dunno.


RTV is being used, as gasket maker, to mate the exhaust manifold/header to the muffler only. This is in the TwoBros kit, and in their paper and online instructions.

I think the key, so far, is to shim the bracket in the rear to better hold, even pinch the muffler in place.

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 Post subject: Re: pino_jonathan Build thread Occupied Virginia, CSA
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:58 pm 
That bracket isn't going to hold it from moving back and forth like it's doing, obviously. You could try to rig a spring like the yosh's if you don't want to weld or epoxy it directly, but that's just more welding/epoxying to put the hooks on than hardwiring it.

It might just fix itself when it warms up.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:06 pm 
lilpinny wrote:
That bracket isn't going to hold it from moving back and forth like it's doing, obviously. You could try to rig a spring like the yosh's if you don't want to weld or epoxy it directly, but that's just more welding/epoxying to put the hooks on than hardwiring it.

It might just fix itself when it warms up.


The silicone pad is heating up, becoming very malleable and almost slippery. She is good and tight at 100degrees or less.

I'll post what I come up with...

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:15 pm 
There should be one hook on the exhaust can. Put a 1-1/2" hose clamp on the header a bit down from the end and really clamp it down. Use the bolt head for one end of the spring and stretch it to the exhaust can. I used this method on previous exhaust and worked perfect. I don't think any sealant would hold for a long time.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:50 pm 
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There should be one hook on the exhaust can. Put a 1-1/2" hose clamp on the header a bit down from the end and really clamp it down. Use the bolt head for one end of the spring and stretch it to the exhaust can. I used this method on previous exhaust and worked perfect. I don't think any sealant would hold for a long time.


You can use a spring from a brake shoe.

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Happypancake! wrote:
There should be one hook on the exhaust can. Put a 1-1/2" hose clamp on the header a bit down from the end and really clamp it down. Use the bolt head for one end of the spring and stretch it to the exhaust can. I used this method on previous exhaust and worked perfect. I don't think any sealant would hold for a long time.



I'm going to mess with it this weekend.

There's got to be a better looking answer than a hose clamp....maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: pino_jonathan Build thread Occupied Virginia, CSA
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:58 pm 
Sometimes there is an eyelet on the can and the header that you attach a spring between... and that's included in the assembly.

The problem is that you have nothing holding it from pushing back horizontally. You have heat, vibration and literally the engine trying to blow the exhaust off the header.

But once it's in place, you could just weld it. I don't know why you'd take it off the header anymore. If you had to remove the exhaust you'd just remove it as one piece. You could use JB weld and have plenty of time to install it and get it into place before it starts drying then let it sit for 24 hours. It'd be ready to go.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 6:01 pm 
you wont even see it.

https://www.amazon.com/HPS-SSTC-44-51-4 ... ess+t+bolt

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 6:31 pm 
Happypancake! wrote:


that would totally work.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 7:57 pm 
I'll be looking in to truly rectifying the issue this weekend.

Other manufacturers seem to have easy fixes for this.

TwoBros, eh....not so much.

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 Post subject: Re: pino_jonathan Build thread Occupied Virginia, CSA
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Sell it to help fund one that works?

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Whole scoot is for sale....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:20 pm 
Haven't messed with the Ruck in a while. Been working 7 day weeks....but I have thought about just adding one or two fasteners to secure the exhaust.

Like one or two small screws from the muffler reducing flange to the header. And I mean SMALL screws...like #4 or smaller x 1/4 or 3/16"

Yall have opinions...? Experiences ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:08 pm 
Did a few rides after work....the fix for the exhaust has worked....will have to post some photos and screen shots this week(end?)

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