Our motto says it all: "We would like to ride in zoomer which is not easily defeated by anyone."

Members Rides Members Rides   TR Ride of the Month TR ROTM   * Ride Utility   Scoot TV Scoot TV   Support TR buy a shirt! TR Store * Login * Register
* FAQ 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:02 am 
Hey people. Name's Ando. I live in Wisconsin near Sheboygan (Between Green Bay and Milwaukee, near Lake Michigan ). I recently bought an '09 Metro. Named her Brick because the off-white and brown reminded me of cream city bricks made from the clay around Milwaukee. I knew nothing about scooters before I bought it, aside from some research before buying, but I'm learning. It's been fun so far and I really enjoy being on 2 wheels again and wrenching on it too. I don't plan on doing too much to the Met, but most of us know how that goes. So far my only plans are cosmetic changes, making my own intake and filter, jets, maybe mod the carb, not sure if I'll mess with the "atomizer/restrictor".. both clutch springs are being replaced with upgrades, a white polini and I'd like to see if 1500 RPM clutch shoe springs effect gas mileage (might use less if it launches quicker with less effort?). I may upgrade the rear shock, which would lead to lowering both front and rear..Slow and low sounds good to me. So far I've done most of the maintenance required. Valve shims, spark plug, gear oil, oil, rollers, checked belt & pulleys, cable adjustments, new coolant, new battery, greased this and that, cleaned everything up and I guess that's about it but I'm forgetful. Next oil change I'll clean the screen. The clutch sounds like it's coming apart so I need to look into that. The only mod done so far is a vented crankcase with a cheap filter. But, I got a spare intake box with an intake tube and old filter, so I started work on that today. Below are some pics. Some of me, a couple things I do, my scooter, some of the intake work I've done so far, which isn't much, and a picture of the parts I will or may use. Anyway, glad to be here and have this site as a resource. :banger: :twisted: :banger: :twisted: :banger: :twisted: :banger: :twisted: :banger:

Here's my scoot
Image

Here's my scoot and I (Don't like Vettes, but free is free!)
Image

Here I am doing some winter biking
Image

"Canoeing"
Image

Old filters are useful!!
Image

Paper+Glue=Sucks
Image

Goodbye paper! Or so I thought... I guess I just wanted to burn something
Image

Note the cap that was cutoff. It was glued using the same stuff to glue the tube to the box.
Image

I'll be using UNI sheets to make my filters
Image

Maaaaybe use one of these on the airbox, but probably just foam behind cut slats in the airbox unless it can be hidden
Image

Here's the crankcase breather nestled in. Kind of a PITA to install there, but it works and doesn't get in the way of anything.
Image

I guess that's all for now.

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

★TR★Addict★
★TR★Addict★
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 246
Location: Green Bay, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:58 am 
Welcome! If you haven't already, make sure you join the facebook page "wisconsin scooter scene"

_________________
2007 Honda Ruckus
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=91999&p=1553742#p1553742
2011 Yamaha C3
viewtopic.php?t=75689
2006 Yamaha Morphous
viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90661


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:19 pm 
Thanks, Ben. I joined the FB page.

Parts were coming in today so last night I tore out the clutch, disassembled it and cleaned things up. While things were apart I cleaned out the variator and rollers. I had a brilliant! idea of trying anit-seize on the rollers, but that proved to be a bad thing even though it was a very minimal amount (wax on, wax off). Some sort of dry lube might work.. After that was all done I went to work on the clutch. I don't have shoe springs yet, but with the white Polini torque spring I'm not sure if I'll try them. I didn't do a back to back comparison, but so far it's easy to tell that the white polini really helps get up to speed from clutch "lockup" to about 30 or so mph. And going uphill from a stop to low speeds is much improved. Better than I could have expected from the white spring. It needs to break in, but so far I really like it. I was hoping in the end it would be slightly stronger than a stock spring after it's been heat-cycled a few times. If not I'll change to the blue, but I'd rather not do any roller tuning. I may have lost 1 indicated mph, but I can't say I'm 100% on that. Seems like a great mod to do on a stock scooter. I uploaded a vid, but I'm not sure it worked, I can't get it to play on my computer. It'll be the last link. If it works if anyone would like to let me know everything sounds and looks good that would be cool. When the clutch bell is stopped I hear a scrapping like the shoes are touching, but I keep a low idle, somewhere around 1500 so I'm not sure what it is. It was there before and after I worked on the cvt at anytime. Thoughts?

Image

Image

http://vid951.photobucket.com/albums/ad ... /028-1.mp4

fixed the vid link to the right one...

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Last edited by Lokis_Tyro on Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:26 pm 
keep idle at 2000
thats what its supposed to be

if you want to lube the rollers look for moo slick

that stiffer spring will make you rev more to get to top speed
I thought your whole thing was a lower revving bike wasnt it

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:39 pm 
It idles fine where I have it. No issues whatsoever. Starts good, but when it's really cold it will hiccup every now and then. I don't consider that an issue. If I turn the idle up to 2K she wants to start rolling. I think the clutch shoe springs could be cooked. I couldn't remember what the Moo stuff was called, so thanks for that. The white spring hasn't really changed rpm too much so I'm fine with it. It's a good trade-off with the white Polini. You're right though, I made a pretty quick turn-around didn't I? I like working on things too much to leave well enough alone, I suppose. I plan on fitting a 80/100-10 if it fits so that should bring the rpms back down slightly. I'm taking you're advice though, Mike, to just mod it and enjoy it. :banger:

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:45 pm 
ok
so your not going for low rpm's anymore

cool

most times clutch springs dont go bad unless you pulled on them and stretched them or someone else did before
or like 25,000 miles on them which I dont think you had
or not the correct ones
I think you should start to roll around 3500 rpm or right around there
so if its moving at 2000 thats really weird

may need to adjust the idle air screw on the carb too just to make sure thats set right if it is a weird idle problem


sounds like you have a tach, you will need that to properly adjust the idle air screw

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:58 pm 
I've come to terms with the fact that there's no final drive out there for me :-/

The only reason I suspect the shoe springs is because I've done 3 200+ miles trips at "high" speeds 35+ and maybe the high temps weakened the small springs. Otherwise I really don't know why it would want to go at such a low rpm. Is it normal for the rear wheel to spin at idle when it's up on the stand? It does this at the lower rpm I keep it at. I don't have a tach, but there's a shop down the road from me that lets me check it out with a wireless tach. I'm just waiting on the Uni foam to make my intake so I'll rejet and get everything sorted then with an air/fuel meter.

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:04 pm 
wheel spinning on stand is normal

make it a habit of locking the rear brake lever then you dont got to worry about that
especially if you ever install a kickstand

you can get a decent tach like $40
I think trail tech makes one just wraps around the spark plug wire and runs off internal battery
so very easy to install

well clutch springs are cheap
and easy to take out without taking apart the torque driver
they can just pull out with a pick

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:25 pm 
Cool thanks. It doesn't really worry me, anymore.

I was thinking about a kickstand but I like being able to put the bike up and run it. I bet the stock stand weighs 10+ lbs. though which would be a great way to shed weight.

I was thinking about getting a wireless. They're only 15 on amazon. Might be junk though. Either that or I'm just going to add gauges for the hell of it. I'm trying to find out if there's a place you can get oil pressure on the GET. SunPro does make a couple tachs that will work with a 1 cyl, otherwise there's the Auto Meter Jr. Dragster tach that you can rig up a certain way so you don't get fluttering. Marshall also makes a few that will work with 1 cylinders.

Do you mean a pick like a dentist's tool or brake tools? I have them both. I'll try some new springs and see what's up. Worst case I'll have newer components.

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:32 pm 
little more heavy duty then the dental ones
I use cheap ones from harbor freight
I guess couple sizes thicker then dental ones

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:57 pm 
Cool. Thanks. There's a 4-piece on sale right now for 2 bucks at HF.

Image

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:30 pm 
yeah I use those

I also have a tool for exhaust springs I sometimes use too
as its really thick and large t handle on it
works good to get kick stand springs back on

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 

Sith Slayer
Sith Slayer
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 13315
Location: Milwaukee, wisCONsin
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
2011 TR Donor
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:58 pm 
:popcorn:

_________________
I AM my post count.

49cc-Sith Slayer-Mechanically disadvantaged-130 rear/2 shoe clutch
66cc-Annakin
49cc-2007 Honda Metropolitan- gonna make it super cute, build thread to come

Its easier to tell the truth than to defend a lie.......for some.

75/49 Founder


Top
 Profile  
 

Junior Mint
Junior Mint

Years on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 226
Location: Oostburg, WI
Gender: Dude
The way it should be
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:12 pm 
Hey Mr. Electrician Mike, would you be willing to help me get this thing going? It's my pops old meter which he thinks he was told has either a cold solder or a bad diode. He used to touch 2 things together with a screwdriver to get it to work, but he can't remember where exactly. I'm getting power to it and some Ohm readings here and there but Idk what the hell I'm doing. Let me know if you'd be willing to work something out.

Image

Image

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdi ... t=&shdMod=

_________________
Image
My Ride: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=91816


Top
 Profile  
 

Donkey Puncher
Donkey Puncher
User avatar
Years on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TRYears on TR

Posts: 5440
Location: San Diego
Gender: Not sure
Shop mechanic
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Loki's Tyro - Brick
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:26 pm 
dude im not that old thats super old
although looks easy to replace the parts

looks like alot of mechanical parts that could be dirty not making good contact
you can buy sprays at electronic stores made to clean just that
and dries fast with no residue

but im not into that old of stuff, actually I like newer digital meters which you just throw away after a couple years


so im guessing you want to use that on your bike

does it need a bung welded in the exhaust for a sensor
or does it have a probe you can shove in the exhaust

honestly its not hard to get the jetting right on your carb
there are only 3-6 jets you will probably need to get that should cover most intake and exhaust setups anyways



at least thats what im guessing that meter is for
air fuel ratio?

_________________
The Widowmaker

:chow: :LR:

Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Check out who is online and not out riding.

Rucksters browsing this forum: No rucksters and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
 
Copyright Owners: click here to report copyright infringement

Technophobes: click here if you are having issues registering or logging in

TotalRuckus.com 2005-2015 (That’s 10 F’ing years!) - All Rights Reserved --- Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group