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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:57 pm 
it is the IM8 am installing now to test will update soon

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:52 pm 
Aye, let me know, I might try this set 3 part way set up if it works well :) (and is cheap) :P

With my size, I need all the umph I can get, pretty sure a GY6 is going to be much more useful for me, but I'm gonna squeeze every ounce out of my GET :D

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:25 pm 
Great Dave, try your first time installation without combining with other electronics kit. Find the best place at frame/body to put that kit, don't put it on the machine, too much vibration there. Waiting for report :popcorn:

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:43 am 
Day 1

well unfortunately i got stuck behind the 20mph crew today and yes thats 20mph through nationals 40's and even 30's (you can guess what i was shouting in my helmet!) both to work and work to home (old man and tractor) :(

one thing i did notice was, i dont know if anyone else has this issue, the polini idle issue is no longer there! (further testing is needed to 100%) stopped at 5-6 traffic lights and no need to rev to stop the engine from dying! i just took my hand of the throttle and it was fine idling away! sweet!

torque wise it does feel firmer and 0-30 feels quicker and more of a jerk if full throttle off the line, cruising along in towns no longer is deafening because there's no need to keep flicking to full throttle to nip places it feels more like my old 125 half throttle will get you from 10-30 quicker

mounting wise i put it in my tool case (think that's the name) under the seat, fitted perfectly no need for tape or Velcro i just drilled out a oval on the metal flap to feed the wires through and taped it up so it wasn't sharp (thanks Steve)

Install took less than 5 mins just like the polini on the coil fittings hacking into the coil and a ground simples!

so far happy dave! no issues gota thank cokiaja for the super simple translation guide he did for me and quicker shipping than USA-UK :bow: :bow:

further test tomorrow il pick a different way to work plus its saturday so less hectic im guna up my var weights back to 5.5 or maybe 6's to get even more top end as the quick off the line i dont really need

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:58 am 
:clap: Nice to know that, Dave.

It worked good with Polini? What I knew polini was better than kitaco i-map.
I replaced polini because its starting engine and idle problems.
And remember, it is only Im8 with 2 power, there is still 4 power type like mine.
With this kit you should use 6 gram roller weight or heavier depend on your body weight. With less than 6 gram the engine will touch the rev limit too early.
You placed that kit at under seat tool box? VERY GOOD IDEA, I'll follow You.

You must get 40s mph easily, keep on finding your best setup. :popcorn:

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:04 am 
IM8 Update

right had a little issue i was stupid and over oiled my filter during testing so it put it all out of wack but ive spent a while testing it now and i thought id give you an update

My setup: Polini CDI, Polini var with 5.5x6 weights, stock exhaust, k&n style filter, stock spark plug and lead

results

pre-install
Flats- 40
Hills- 31-32

install
Flats- 44
Hills- 33-34

explanation
install was super easy 1 ground, 1 on each of the coil terminals. Has improved my top speed and grunt on hills not by much but i am running stock plug and lead, ive found new on webike a new type of spark plug LINK which i will buying next month along with a new belt as mines a bit worn now. It sounds healthier at top speed and during the range but this could be subconscious, more pep of the line and as soon as the belts warmed up it does feel more responsive.
I will buying a NGK style lead and new plug with belt so hopefully pull a bit more from her over the next few months if you guys got any question il be happy to answer, cant think of anything ive missed.
Oh and yes it does seem to have fixed the polini's dieing at traffic light problem only thing i can think of is that the polini doesnt give as much of a spark at idle which causes a stutter then stall, but yer for the past 2 weeks ive been specifically taking hands of bars at lights to check the theory and not once has it died!!

cokiaja thanks for this has been great to test a new part out for the EU scene il post up again after belt lead and plug have been changed :bow:

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:39 pm 
nice, let me know the set up and stuff and i might be in for one, i took my polini out cus of the dieing >.< was annoying me..

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:03 pm 
Unlucky me, after combined polini and im8, starting and idle problem still happened.
You should try with heavier roller to get more top end i hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:49 am 
Ive got 6gs in the post hopefully here next week, working on an order from japan but with the current situation im guna hold off a month, strange about your polini idle issue wander why mine is fixed?

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:21 am 
You know, all these issues to just make me think, if you want something reliable, don't try to fix the polini, just buy the kitaco, it's more expensive, but it doesn't bugger your scoot up...

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:41 pm 
I back to kitaco and keep look and study for another parts like HO cam, lighter flywheel ect.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:13 pm 
So if it helps the stalling problem then where can I get one?

Ive been looking on line and I can find them but not to buy. I want to get that coil to as it looks like it helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:41 am 
Bear, have you contact with mr Andres yet? Or you've got that IM8 already.
I am in the middle remapping the kitaco cdi, not done yet and not easy.
If anybody has succeed with this, please pm me your best map, thanks.
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Well, the last recorded top speed at my vapor was 77 kph (48mph) at long flat road. (GPS calibrated)
Zoomer was screaming loudly at 10k rpm.
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I've tried many time to set the fuel supply diagram for imap but still sucks, no improvement. I almost desperate. Bandaar, would you help me? :)
Kitaco guy said that 3 given setup on imap are the best for zoomer, tiny engine, and their engineer didn't give me any clue.
But I'll keep on trying.

Last Update:
I've found the best fuel mapping for 9k and 10k rpm on imap. It worked good than 3 given setting.
And I replaced stock gear with kitaco heavier gear ratio, still running good with extra top speed, no screaming rpm anymore!
Thats what imap bought for. KEEP TUNING !! :banger:

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:13 pm 
Hi, I've been thinking of switching my pollini CDI for the Kitaco alternative for a while now.

My pollini CDI is giving me so many problems, mainly the cutting out when i stop at the lights and taking about 4-5 attempts to start up my bike resulting in constantly having to hook my battery up to my Optimate to recharge it.

So after looking around at my options i think im going to bite the bullet and get the kitaco cdi (ecu piggyback, imap.. or whatever it may be called)

I just wanted to check that im buying the right thing.

So on the jiangawayne site there is this
http://www.jiangwayne.com/scooter/p_i.php?i=113

and on the webike site there is this
http://japan.webike.net/products/1919261.html

do i need both of these or just one or are they the same thing?


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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:21 pm 
just bought the one at webike japan, not the jiangwayne.
i am not sure about kitaco cdi at jiangwayne store.
your polini problem, is everyone problem with polini.

After Kitaco imap, find a bigger spark ignition coil for Fi engine.
I found and bought KN-KIKAKU ignition coil (w/ ground strap) for yamaha cygnus-x Fi at webike too, bigger spark than my big honda VFR ignition coil.

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