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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:40 am 
I don't want to get dragged into the same argument I had earlier this week with some of you guys, but

Can I respectfully suggest instead of putting lighter and lighter weights in,
you try going the other way...

I weigh 120kg (19st) I run with 6.25g weights
My wife (not allowed to give her weight) runs 6.5g weights

I tried lighter weights, down to 5g and lost top speed
Yes it was quicker accelerating, and probably better on hills
But there ain't no hills here, so top speed is what I tuned for.

The trick is to get that belt to the top of the variator pulley before the rev limiter kicks in.
Then the CDI (Rev limiter overrider) will have something to do

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:56 am 
pappydog wrote:
I don't want to get dragged into the same argument I had earlier this week with some of you guys, but

Can I respectfully suggest instead of putting lighter and lighter weights in,
you try going the other way...

I weigh 120kg (19st) I run with 6.25g weights
My wife (not allowed to give her weight) runs 6.5g weights

I tried lighter weights, down to 5g and lost top speed
Yes it was quicker accelerating, and probably better on hills
But there ain't no hills here, so top speed is what I tuned for.

The trick is to get that belt to the top of the variator pulley before the rev limiter kicks in.
Then the CDI (Rev limiter overrider) will have something to do


Thanks for saying this mate - don't quite get why the guys were recommending lighter weights for higher top end!


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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:58 am 
It's not rocket science. Start with the lightest weights that still manage to go all the way out in the variator before rev limit kicks in. Then theres the aspect of the power window of your specific engine setup. The rev interval where your engine has the most power, in most cases pretty close to rev limit. So you add a little bit of weight to keep engine at that sweet spot during acceleration.

I am not saying it is an easy or quick job, but it is all about pretty simple mechanical/physical principles.


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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:53 am 
Lambda sensor back on MNNTHBX exhaust ,no more FI light on after a long distance when the motor is warm..

And not looking ugly !! :lol:

Now i am going to test pos 3 on the cdi , just waiting the dr.pulleys rollers

And this week-end ,filter mod , can't see that ugly box anymore haha

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:29 am 
belgian zoomer FI 10',long...looow...And not so slow ..haha

Where's the 10' Build Thread?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:36 am 
i must made it before that he is finished :lol:

i want to make clean pics with my eos ...but the weather in brussels :(

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:42 pm 
Zoom-R wrote:
It's mounted on the header, right before the muffler...
The header meets up with the engine on the opposite side of the engine...

Here's mine on a Polini-exhaust:
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This is a "lambda-rule" so it'll be there on every pgm-fi scoot/moto...

Sorry if I sound dense but why would I need to move the sensor from the header to the muffler?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:32 am 
Zoom-R wrote:
It's mounted on the header, right before the muffler...
The header meets up with the engine on the opposite side of the engine...
This is a "lambda-rule" so it'll be there on every pgm-fi scoot/moto...


True on the Zoomer, that is actually equipped with an automobile type lambda sensor, but on the PCX for example you can see the tiny sensor (mostly hidden by the spark plug cap) that is fitted right on the cylinder head just above the exhaust header entrance :

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:42 pm 
Razorscoots wrote:
Zoom-R wrote:
It's mounted on the header, right before the muffler...
The header meets up with the engine on the opposite side of the engine...

Here's mine on a Polini-exhaust:
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This is a "lambda-rule" so it'll be there on every pgm-fi scoot/moto...

Sorry if I sound dense but why would I need to move the sensor from the header to the muffler?


No one said move it to the muffler... "right before the muffler"..
If you for some reason have the lambda elsewhere and everything works, there is no need to move it.
I just answered the question... On a stock Zoomer it is there, and all aftermarket exhausts that are prepared for the Zoomer has it there and those that are unprepared usually comes with instructions on getting a bung welded in that area...
My LeoVince has it too:

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If you have a lambda installed for a non-injected Ruckus, (to watch the AFR) I don't know where its good to mount it...
but I'd go for the same spot...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:38 am 
thanks for the explanation. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:43 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:41 pm 
Anyone here running a Vapor or RPM gauge on a fuel injected zoomer?

I've got my Imap installed, plus the Vapor gauge but i can't seem to get a consistant reading on the RPM via the wrapping signal coil on the spark plug cable method..

the service manual i have is for the carb version ruckus, so wiring diagram is not much use..

would ideally prefer to wire it directly into a rpm signal via the ecu/loom.. does anyone know which wire it is?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:10 am 
I will bump this thread for the sake of the above post.

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:06 am 
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I will bump this thread for the sake of the above post.


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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:03 am 
want to check before taking the plunge, will this easy plug and play CDI work with the FI zoomer?
http://www.japan-webike.it/products/527659.html

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