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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:34 am 
As far as I know, only the kitaco and polini are working on the FI zoomers.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:00 pm 
aaight

thats a job for Ad in the future, perhaps :)

First I'll look what kind of rollers I have now in my Zoomer and if I have an aftermarket vario...
At the moment I'm waiting for the variator tool to come in.

And depending what I discover I'll perhaps order some 6.5gram and 7 gram rollers and a Polini variator.
If I'm satisfied with that result, I might not install a CDI after all. :)

Stock rollers for Zoomers are 5.6 gram according to Ad Nap, the Zoomer king of Holland :)
If I want more acceleration I should install heavier rollers (6.5 gr to 7 gram) from Leovince and a Polini vario.
That combo should give a top speed of 55-60km/h.
So I'll be experimenting with rollers first.

Its strange because it seems to be the opposite of everything I red so far on this board:
- light rollers = better a acceleration
- heavier = higher topspeed

So Ad says the opposite it seems.
Maybe its because our Zoomers are fuel injected and ride differently because of that, dunno.

What rollers and vario are you riding btw?

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:41 pm 
I have an old polini variator with a lot of wear on it.
Running 6,5 grams and hitting the rev limiter constantly.
(about 8500 rpm's which is lower than rucks (8800 rpm's))

I recently installed a new polini belt to get some speed back.

Currently @ 52 kmph, but I have an 120/90-10 rear tire.
With this smaller tire you lose about 3-4 kmph top speed.

I'll install some 7 grams soon, to see what it does to top speed.

I also think that I need to change my motor oil to 5w30.
I'm currently using 10w40 wich could be to thick for the small zoomer engine.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:23 am 
no CDI I assume :)

How come a zoomer loses topspeed when riding a thinner rear tire?
Or you refer to the diameter of the tire?
What tire size do you think is best for topspeed than?

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:40 pm 
My zoomer fi only can get this km/h, you should be better.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:47 am 
Cool, can you share some more info?

2 valve or 4 valve head?
Tire size?
what variator,
what weights?
Belt?
Clutch?
Kitaco Overdrive,?
Met gears?
What Map are you running on the IMAP?
Rider weight?
Speed confirmed with GPS?

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:34 pm 
2 valve or 4 valve head?
2 valve type

Tire size?
stock

what variator,
what weights?
modified KN variator with 5gr roller

Belt?
shorter and narrower gates belt 780 16,5 30

Clutch?
yamaha 112mm clutch with 112mm stage6 bell
gy6 50/dio pulley

Kitaco Overdrive,?
Met gears?
yes, met gear

What Map are you running on the IMAP?
imap 9500 rpm + andrion im8

Rider weight?
ride by my skinny nephew with only 60kg weight :D
i'm 77kg, topspeed will 2-3km/h slower :meh:

Speed confirmed with GPS?
calibrated speedometer with gps

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:24 am 
cokiaja wrote:
2 valve or 4 valve head?
2 valve type

Tire size?
stock

what variator,
what weights?
modified KN variator with 5gr roller

Belt?
shorter and narrower gates belt 780 16,5 30

Clutch?
yamaha 112mm clutch with 112mm stage6 bell
gy6 50/dio pulley

Kitaco Overdrive,?
Met gears?
yes, met gear

What Map are you running on the IMAP?
imap 9500 rpm + andrion im8

Rider weight?
ride by my skinny nephew with only 60kg weight :D
i'm 77kg, topspeed will 2-3km/h slower :meh:

Speed confirmed with GPS?
calibrated speedometer with gps


you, my friend, are now officially the king of all FI zoomer riders :clap: :highfive: :banger:
the only thing you can do is switch to a 140/90-10 rear tire, looking at the numbers i honestly thought you were running a 140/90-10 rear.

with speeds like that, my zoomer would be confiscated by the cops and turned into scrap metal.

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 Post subject: Re: Kitaco CDi for FI Zoomer
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:32 am 
Aahh..i'm just lucky my friend, there must be someone faster than me.

Zoomer is the smallest cc scooter here and i dont want to left behind too far from other scooters.

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