You don't need an M1, you can get an M2 permit. With an M2, you can't ride motorcycles though.
Yeah, but if you have a M1/M2 permit, you're only allowed to ride during the day!
Or just get an Oregon drivers license (I have one), for mopeds/scooters, you don't need an additional endorsment and mine doesn't expire until 2012!
Ill post it all again...
you need an m2. here's the excerpt from the dmv:
There are two classes of motorcycle licenses, Class M1 and Class M2.
* With a Class M1, you can operate any 2-wheel motorcycle and any motorized vehicle in Class M2.
* With a Class M2, you can only operate any motorized bicycle or moped or any bicycle with an attached motor.
Effective January 1, 2006, you may operate a motorized scooter with a Class M1 or M2 driver license. Prior to January 1, 2006, you must have a Class C or higher driver license to operate a motorized scooter.
A motorized scooter is defined as: A two-wheeled "device" powered by a motor with a floorboard that is designed to stand on when riding. The scooter may also have a driver's seat.
Hey swisher, you're wrong. Please stop spreading incorrect info
According to the California Vehicle code, the Honda Ruckus (50cc) is NOT a motorized scooter. It is a motor-driven cycle.
Let me clear up some of the confusion:
The definitions here are definitions taken directly from the California Vehicle Code - CLICK HERE
Definition of a "motorized scooter":
V.C. Section 407.5 wrote:
407.5. (a) A "motorized scooter" is any two-wheeled device that has handlebars, has a floorboard that is designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by an electric motor. This device may also have a driver seat that does not interfere with the ability of the rider to stand and ride and may also be designed to be powered by human propulsion. For purposes of this section, an electric personal assistive mobility device, as defined in Section 313, a motorcycle, as defined in Section 400, a motor-driven cycle, as defined in Section 405, or a motorized bicycle or moped, as defined in Section 406, is not a motorized scooter.
(b) A device meeting the definition in subdivision (a) that is powered by a source other than electrical power is also a motorized scooter.
The most obvious reason why a Ruckus/Metro is NOT a motorized scooter is because it is not designed to be stood upon when riding. It is designed for the rider to SIT.
Examples of motorized scooters are:
Go-Peds (either electric or gas powered)
We call the Honda Ruckus/Metropolitan a "scooter" but that term is incorrect. Technically, according to the California Vehicle Code, they are classified as "motor-driven cycles". I call my Ruckus/Metro a "scooter" when talking to an average joe because it's a slang term, and easily understood.
V.C. Section 405 wrote:
405. A "motor-driven cycle" is any motorcycle with a motor that displaces less than 150 cubic centimeters. A motor-driven cycle does not include a motorized bicycle, as defined in Section 406.
Definition of a "motorcycle":
V.C. Section 400 wrote:
400. (a) A "motorcycle" is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, and weighing less than 1,500 pounds.
(b) A motor vehicle that has four wheels in contact with the ground, two of which are a functional part of a sidecar, is a motorcycle if the vehicle otherwise comes within the definition of subdivision (a).
(c) A motor vehicle that is electrically powered, has a maximum speed of 45 miles per hour, and weighs less than 2,500 pounds, is a motorcycle if the vehicle otherwise comes within the definition of subdivision (a).
(d) A farm tractor is not a motorcycle.
(e) A three-wheeled motor vehicle that otherwise meets the requirements of subdivision (a), has a partially or completely enclosed seating area for the driver and passenger, is used by local public agencies for the enforcement of parking control provisions, and is operated at slow speeds on public streets, is not a motorcycle. However, a motor vehicle described in this subdivision shall comply with the applicable sections of this code imposing equipment installation requirements on motorcycles.
Long story short, Rucks and Metros and anything similar (Yamaha Vino, Zuma, etc.) are "motor-driven cycles", which are basically "motorcycles" with engines less than 150ccs in displacement. An M-1 license is required to operate any motorcycle or motor-driven cycle.
Don't doubt a motorcop when it comes to traffic/vehicle codes... I get paid to know this kind of stuff