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 Post subject: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:31 pm 
I just got finished installing my NCY CDI with the instructions found here: http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=72539 and my ruckus isn't starting. I followed the instructions to a T and I just want to make sure that it isn't a CDI issue.

It's starting up, the pump clicks, and the headlights come on, but it just won't turn over. It's giving me the same issue it did when the carb was clogged, but I cleaned the carb a week or so ago and had it running.

What do you guys think? Could the CDI be bad?

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:11 pm 
like I always say.. ..
starting is the best performance mod.

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:56 pm 
Unfortunately that doesn't help me much. What would help is if you could tell me what a bad CDI acts like.

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:28 pm 
now I have a new issue. After charging the battery , once I turn the key a relay starts to click. No pump or anything, just the relay (one of the black ones, the top one to be exact).

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:34 pm 
A. Kill switch

B. Fuse

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:26 am 
It wasn't either. I apparently had miswired a connector that gets spliced into the harness. It was too late to really mess with it, but I did get it to turn over using the kick start. Turning the key on didn't cause the lights or anything to turn on, though.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:39 am 
Apparently it's also common for a CDI to take out the starter/ killswitch?

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:11 am 
If I pull out all the plugs and jumper the orange and white wires I can get it to start with a kick start. But once I plug everything in a kick start won't even get it going.

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:11 pm 
first things fist make sure your battery is charged and good to go.
now i can't tell you what a bad or incorectly wired cdi would do but i can go through the wiring with you to make sure it is correct
the green goes to ground
the red wire is for ignition switched power this can be hooked to the black and white wire on your ecu of the ruckus
the blue wire with connector goes to your blue and yellow tach signal wire that has a connector also it is hanging by the relays in your battery box
the red wire with connector on the cdi harness is not used
remove the black and yellow wire at your coil and plug the orange wire to your coil
now plug your yellow wire and your black and yellow wire together

this should get you going and your kill switch and everything else should still work, now i will be 100% honest mine runs and i have found no problems yet but
i have not been able to get in a run where i can check to see for sure that the rev limiter is removed as it has been raining for the last couple of days.

i used this method because there were several people who complained about the kill switch/starters not working and one of the members here on TR found you could wire it this way and it would work there is a thread that has all the pics and details the black and white wire correction on page nine of that thread i will see if i can post a link to that thread.
the good thing about this way is if something happens you can disconnect/reconnect a wire or two and be up and running again


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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:54 pm 
I have everything the same except for the power wire.

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:01 pm 
i believe your orange and yellow wires are hooked up backwards the pics in the post you linked to shows the yellow connected to the wire going to the ecu and the orange going to the wire in the harness which goes back to the coil.

also note that the way you have the red wire hooked into the red and green wire at the relay it will work but you may lose your killswitch and i think i have heard others say possibly the electric start which is why there was a revision/update of the instructions on page nine of that thread to use the black and white wire. now others are still hooked up the original way and have had no known problems so it may just be a luck of the draw kind of thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:58 pm 
I may have snapped this before I fixed it, because they were swapped for sure. But I did redo that. Do you know where the black and white wire is that I need to tap into?

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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:41 pm 
the black wire with white stripe is in the same row as the black and yellow you tapped into about 5 or six wires down. you need to get a test light and make sure that wire has power when the key is switched on if it does then flip your kill switch to the off position and the light should go out if it does you have the correct wire.

can you explain to me what happens when you try to start it now , you said the orange and yellow were wired wrong at first and you switched them around, did you try to start it when they were wrong ?


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 Post subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad (or incorrectly installed) CDI
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:38 pm 
I did. Basically it kept turning over until the battery ran out of juice, and then after that every time I charged it and tried to electric start it, it would just act like the battery was completely gone. Kick starting it only works if I unplug the CDI and jump it with a wire.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:17 pm 
Battery gone. Need new one.

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