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 Post subject: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:39 pm 
I am installing an ATR mount for my GY6. I'm trying to push one of the engine bushings back in the frame. I really had to bash on that thing to get it out and now I have to push it back in from the outside.

What is the best way to do this? Lots of heat and grease? As it is I can't even get it started. Any ideas are appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:58 pm 
there is a tool
or you can make the tool, I think its a long bolt, washers, nuts
pretty sure I saw it posted on this site either one for sale or how to make one

or use a hydraulic press


as for using grease, I would think the grease could cause it to shift over later not sure
the few things I ever pressed or hammered in was done dry

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:09 pm 
freeze (yes put in freezer) the bushing too it helps

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:13 pm 
yeah. I was trying to avoid buying a bushing press, but it looks like I need it. I was trying to rig a tool with sockets, 2x4's, clamps and a hammer. It wasn't working.

I got the bearing in the freezer to perhaps help shrink it. I'll heat the frame up real good. Scored a bushing driver off of amazon and that should show up monday.

I hate it when you are working along and then something comes out of left field that makes you have to stop and wait to get something done or buy something. I hate it. It always happens to me on the weekends. Always... although as I'm amassing tools it's getting better.

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:24 pm 
some electronics store also sell freezing spray

like frys electronics if you have one nearby

that could be used for much quicker freezing or a way to boost the freezing if your still having trouble doing it quickly

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:09 pm 
thanks! I'm going to have to get some of that spray.

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:10 am 
My improvised bushing pusher.

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I use a 22mm socket pushing in from the outside and a 19mm pushing from the inside outside. I think it was almost 9 bucks for the bolt, nut and strong washers.

pushed it out and back in in 5 mins with just hand tools. It was like butter.

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:51 am 
:banger: awesome!! you should post a pic of your improvised tool exploded

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:21 am 
Sure...

Here is the rig with a four inch 3/8 bolt and some strong washers. The washers are one size smaller on one side since there is a cross member on the inside of the frame that will prevent the bigger washer from sitting on the inside. That's why the washers aren't the same size. I doubled them up on that side too. Pictured with bushing.

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I used a 22mm socket to push from the outside in. It's not the 22mm that's important, it's the size of the outside of the socket. My 22mm socket worked for me, ymmv. It's also different if you are pushing from the inside out or the outside in.

There is a good chance that the socket will get jammed in the hole like the bushing was. Grease the socket in case you have to knock it out or push it out.

I had a socket get jammed and had to pull it across the frame. In that case I used a really long threaded rod across the ruck and built the same rig...

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:26 pm 
You could post this in the How-To section

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:51 pm 
Good idea P-Dub... I just did.

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I hope it saves someone some time.


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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:09 pm 
This is helpful. I'm going to have to do this as well since I'm having the same issue with my ATR mount. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how it works. If I wanted to push the bearing out from the center going outwards, would I have to hold the nut on the outside and crank the bolt from the inside? I'm kind of in a double jam since the previous owner of the frame added frame plugs that are jammed snug on the outside.


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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:02 am 
I have an effective metal freezing method that might be able to help someone one day.
All you need is some carb or brake cleaner and an air compressor (an air can will work, but it is expensive after a while.
Take the cleaner and spray the metal/bushing/bearing at the same thing me using the blast of air. The air atomizes the cleaner, rapidly cooling it down. And by cool, I mean COLD!
It also helps to heat the receiving end with a torch or heat gun, or leave it out in the sun if there's rubber on the bushing.

I've installed a carrier bearing on a drive shaft this way pretty effectively. Thanks for your help guys!


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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:32 am 
That's what I have, the ATR/Standard Functions mount. If you are looking down at the bike, you leave the left bushing alone and put that spacer over it. You push the right bushing outward just enough to get that cross member in. Between the two connections on the engine, the swingarm piece and the shock it keeps the engine in there nice and tight.

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 Post subject: Re: re-Inserting the engine bushings
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:30 am 
avillan610 wrote:
I have an effective metal freezing method that might be able to help someone one day.
All you need is some carb or brake cleaner and an air compressor (an air can will work, but it is expensive after a while.
Take the cleaner and spray the metal/bushing/bearing at the same thing me using the blast of air. The air atomizes the cleaner, rapidly cooling it down. And by cool, I mean COLD!
It also helps to heat the receiving end with a torch or heat gun, or leave it out in the sun if there's rubber on the bushing.

I've installed a carrier bearing on a drive shaft this way pretty effectively. Thanks for your help guys!


Considering that the bushing is mostly rubber and the only thing that is metal is the outside shell, I found that freezing didn't help. The little tool I rigged got it in there at room temperature and I was able to just use hand tools. Slides in like butter.

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