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 Post subject: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:56 pm 
Vino crapped out on me today on my way to work. Just as I hit 2102 miles on the odo, it lost power and I rolled it to the side of the road. It smelled like something was burning or melting, like a wire got melted. No smoke, it still was holding oil when I got back. Its at the shop currently and I'm waiting on news.

Worried it could be fairly serious, after it bogged down and died, the cylinder turned over with some effort, but not like it did before the event. If its seized up, it might be time to install the 150cc kit. It could also be that it ate the belt, and thats what was burning. In that case, I might be in better shape. I suppose we'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:59 pm 
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spoolboyy wrote:
Sad news. On my way to work, my vino bit the dust. Now its hard starting, feels like the piston is soft seized, because it'll still turn over. Currently at the shop awaiting word, it'll be a few days. If they do have to tear into the engine, I'm going to order them the PSR kit as well. I'm hoping its something simpler (read: cheaper) than that.

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i know how that's like. hopefully it's a simple fix AND an excuse to get yourself a big bore kit. :highfive:


(Brought this comment over from your rebuild thread, I don't want to hijack it.)

Yeah agreed. I figure its either going to be simple and cheap, OR I'm going to get a big bore kit. Likely it won't be both. But, if the cylinder is damaged, I'll take the bonus 25ccs. I hear the PSR kit is the best one out there and its a true 150, not a 140 like some of the others are. One of the reviews on the site suggests a simple upjet fro the stock 97.5 to a 100 and that seemed to work for him at near-sea level. I too live at near sea level, so i'm hoping I can leverage this guy's experience and put it to use on my scooter as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:52 pm 
So what happened dude? It's way to early for your belt to crap out on you. That thing's supposed to last 12k. Sad news for the Vino. Glad you're not injured.

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:56 pm 
Ah man sorry to hear that!
Let us know how it goes.

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:38 am 
The previous owner had installed an NCY clutch and rollers etc, and based on what his other work appears to be, its possible some of the stuff in the drive train was not installed correctly, which could have lead to additional belt wear. The trouble is, like zoomie said, its way to early for the belt. Hey, its way too early for anything. I'm hoping its a simple-ish fix, and I can get back on two wheels soon.

Driving my truck feels like punishment now.... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:17 pm 
Back in action. New belt, rollers and sliders later. The P.O. had installed an NCY clutch (along iwth rollers and sliders) that wasn't quite in properly and it chewed up the belt. It was a V-belt with no V by the time it came off. Good to be back on the road that's for sure. I had the shop install stock weights, as I live in Kitsap where the avg speed limit is a bit higher than some areas, the scoots a little weak off the line now and I have to admit, I miss some of that low end power. I plan to give the bike a bit of time to see how I like the shift in power before I make any snap decisions.

The shop also did some basic tuning and re-torquing which lowered my idle speed considerably. I'm surprised at how quiet it is at idle now, haha. Good riding out there. Hopefully I still have some summer left.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:10 am 
Awesome! :banger:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:43 pm 
Good to hear you are back on the saddle! Now ride on yo... :banger:

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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:12 pm 
So I haven't ridden much in the last 12 months (about 200 miles since I had this work done) and last Wednesday my scooter snapped another belt. Not sure what is going on with that. I decided this time I was going to tear into fixing the scoot myself.

Here's what I discovered:
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If you look at the belt, it looks like one side of it has been worn away, to the point that it doesn't have any sort of V shape to it anymore, and there are belt shreddin's everywhere. The whole inside of the transmission case is full of powdered belt. What's odd, is that I can't feel anything that would have contacted the belt and torn it up like this. Can anyone help me out with some ideas on what could cause my scooter to be going through belts like this?

Thanks, and good riding.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:02 pm 
First part arrives for the repair: expecting a few more goodies this week.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:21 pm 
Is the clutch face where the belt goes scratched? Just a guess on how your belt got torn up

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:33 pm 
Good luck fixing it, that sucks the belt got so chewed up.

These last few weeks ive been averaging 50-100 miles per day. 200 miles in a 12 month period is shocking!

Keep posting updates. I'm approaching 10,000 miles and I'll have to open it up and replace the belt this year, most likely.


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 Post subject: Re: Vino Down!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:01 am 
shamsjr2 wrote:
Is the clutch face where the belt goes scratched? Just a guess on how your belt got torn up


That's my best theory too. The variator is smooth, but I haven't looked at the clutch too closely yet. Before I put the whole thing back together I'm going to give it a thorough once over.

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Good luck fixing it, that sucks the belt got so chewed up. These last few weeks ive been averaging 50-100 miles per day. 200 miles in a 12 month period is shocking! Keep posting updates. I'm approaching 10,000 miles and I'll have to open it up and replace the belt this year, most likely.
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I know! I've had a REALLY light year for riding, due to a cool wet spring, and then having some other stuff to deal with that involved me commuting in my pickup everyday because I needed it after work. I usually only log 15 miles a day with my commute, and you're rolling 50-100 miles?! Where are you going that requires so much scooter time? Can I come? :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:04 am 
I got laid off work so I have lots of money saved up and I'm just going riding all over the place every nice day there is. crappy days I sit at home and apply for jobs. so far, three weeks in, I love it. I could do this for awhile.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:03 pm 
Well, good luck with the job hunt, but not too much luck. ;)

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