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 Post subject: the HID thread (high intensity discharge headlamps)
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:11 am 
Here's my set up...

1 (stock Nissan 4XXX K Ds2 bulb) in the left headlight housing, 1 stock halogen H4 in the right.

Halogen operates normal...HiD is only active during high-beam. One decent HiD operated lense is MORE than enough.

Buy quality thre first time....Most "kits" are crap (OEM standards are plenty).

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I have nothing but great things to say about the set-up...Just use common sense, and be precise when making the H4 adapter.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:42 pm 
The best advice I can offer is this:

Wire only one HiD set-up.....
Use the highbeam wire....
be precise when making the H4 adapter....Loose light=broken bulb.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:38 pm 
On the LIL RUCK I'd be careful of voltage flucuactions. I found
a pair of PIAA voltage stabilizers on feeBay for about $60.

They are designed for H4 halogens (PIAA Bulbs are really
costly); but they work for the HID lights, also.

With aux. lights in HID you can't keep switching them
off and on; would be hard on the ballast. IN the H4
adapters with the magnetic reflectors might be better
when changing hi & lo beams. Don't know how long the
magnetic reflectors would work; haven't seen any reports
about it yet.

I'd recommend checking with www.suvlights.com for a
kit if you plan on changing up to HID. I'm adding a third
light above the headlights and will switch off the headlights
when running the HID driving lamp (to bright for urban use).
I am installing a Hella Compact 4000 with the conversion kit
from suvlights for my highway version of the, BR.
Total cost with the fixture (found on feeBay) and kit
from Suvlights.com is about $300 compared to the $400-500 from
Hella for an HID Compact 4000.

I'd recommend the HELLA MICRO Xenon if you want a clean
set up. It's the size of a pack of cigarettes; but is set up already
as a driving light. I'll pm you some photos of mine. I have two
BRs now and plan on running the small on one my URBAN RAT.

IF you plan on doing the change over from H4 headlamps it
can be a problem. Some kits use a magnetic reflector that
flips back and forth depending on which beam you need.

Most manufacturers would rather you purchase a made for
HID fixture if you want both HI & LO beams. They are
pricey, though. You can get a nice set of lights from, suvlights
that will do the job. I think they were the Sylvania 1010 or
something like that. They are aux. lights. I'd go toward driving
and fog lights set up in HID rather than mess with the H4 lamps.

For the LIL RUCK you might do better if you switch off the headlamps
when running an HID driving or fog lights.
In my state; you can run with only FOG lights in fog and rain.
Be carefull adding lights to the LIL RUCK,
the alternator is pretty small on the LIL RUCK. I think it's 180 watts; not sure.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:42 am 
Buying new is great, but retro-fitting an OEM set-up is hella cheaper AND will fit in the bugeye ruckii lamps. I can get more pictures once I get batteries for the digi....


OEM Nissan Altima HiDs: $165
H4 Adapter: cost of bulb (remove the bracket ring and file it to fit)

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:26 am 
I'd suggest running the HID in the RIGHT headlight to reduce
glare for the oncoming drivers. It also would light up the edge of the road; which gives you a heads up for deer on the right side in addition
to keep glare at a minimum for oncoming drivers.

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Has anyone been able to do this with out having a flicker at idle?


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:37 am 
LanceW wrote:
Has anyone been able to do this with out having a flicker at idle?


Yeah, just make sure you use a relay.


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 Post subject: HID's for the ruck?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:52 pm 
So i don't really know what bulb goes in the head lights but it looks like an h4. My question is can the housing take an HID and can the alternator also. Or will it be to much of a strain on the lil ruck. Also is there any one running true HID's


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:57 pm 
Uh, this has been tried many times, and I think all except one person had theirs end in failure. You're looking at a troublesome upgrade.

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Troublesome, but well worth it if you do a lot of night riding.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:57 am 
My favorite H4 bulbs:

https://www.matrixracing.com/p-4437-piaa-h4-super-white-bulbs-platinum-twin-pack.aspx
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I had a set of these in my old EK Civic hatchback and absolutely loved them. They give off a very light violet/purple hue. I wouldn't do a HID setup without modifying a stock set of lamps with projectors. I started looking into doing this, but the battery and charging system doesn't seem to be up to par, especially at idle. You'd really need an upgraded charging system and bigger battery.

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look at www.trailtech.net

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:19 am 
so wait are they enclosed or is there a bulb in there?

i figured the charging system would be the main problem


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:17 am 
It is an H4 bulb.

You need to make a plate adapter for the ds2 bulb, so it will fit into the halogen backsetting. You will also need to hard wire in your igniter, and ballast.

I decided to use (one) HID and (one) halogen.

This set-up does not tax the charging system and allows me to run either/or whenever I choose. The HID is wired into the high beam of the left light, and the halogen has normal operation. It is a pain to do (easy, just a pain if you have no experience) and it could cost a bit.

I used an '05 Nissan Maxima HID set-up for less blue/purple and more useable light.


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Tuesday Club wrote:
It is an H4 bulb.

You need to make a plate adapter for the ds2 bulb, so it will fit into the halogen backsetting. You will also need to hard wire in your igniter, and ballast.

I decided to use (one) HID and (one) halogen.

This set-up does not tax the charging system and allows me to run either/or whenever I choose. The HID is wired into the high beam of the left light, and the halogen has normal operation. It is a pain to do (easy, just a pain if you have no experience) and it could cost a bit.

I used an '05 Nissan Maxima HID set-up for less blue/purple and more useable light.


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