some additional information from YSS.....
this is great information for any one setting up any shock.Suspension SetupShock Absorber SetupMono ShocksReplacement Springs for shocks and forks.Option Feature Numbering Explained
After finding the 3 YSS shocks for the Foresight listed on an Italian website, I emailed YSSUSA with the stock numbers listed there.....Dear YSSUSA:
please send pricing on the following 3 version of the 395mm YSS shocks:
ReplyThank you for your interest in our YSS shocks
The Mono shock prices for the Honda Foresight are as follows:
OC302-395T-01EAL = $ 245.00
OD220-395P-01 = $ 58.00
OE302-395T-01AL = $ 159.00
I immediately placed the order and mentioned it will be used on a Big Ruckus........Thank you for the order.
I have supplied some shocks for the Ruckus before, but they had different length = 290 mm only.
The item you ordered has 395 mm = difference of over 4â€ť. Is that correct?
What is the bushing size for the shocks that you have?
Top should be dia. 10 x 20 mm wide and bottom is a fork or clevis of 26 mm wide with dia. 10 holes.
The shocks I quoted you have to be ordered, they are not in stock.
For the OD 220 I have to place a min. order of 60 units and for the OE a minimum of 40 units.
This would be a major investment not knowing whether there are follow up orders by other Ruckus owners.
I am willing to do that, but we need to clarify the length and top and bottom mount issue first to make sure what we have is correct and they are all the same.
When I order the items, the lead time will be 5-6 weeks
I explain this is a BIG Ruckus, a 250cc and it uses the exact same shock as the Foresight quoted above. I tell him I don't know if we would ever have 40 BR riders wanting a new shock, but he will surely sell some at the above prices....but, maybe not enough to cover the minimum order.Thank you for the details.
I can build you the OE model shock this week with motorcycle parts that I have here. It will be a model ME 302-395 T.
The shock will be with steel tube etc. The OE for the Honda Foresight will have an Aluminum body.
The ME can be serviced, the OE not.
The list price is a little more than the OE â€“ for you it will be the same â€“ but later on I have to charge more for it.
The OD model shock I have to get from the factory. I will be there next week, returning July 10. If I can bring one with me I will do that.
The advantage with the ME is that we can change spring rate here to suit riders weight, the OE comes with a certain spring rate.
The last question I have is: did I understand correctly â€“ the shock has top and bottom eye mounts? The Foresight has a clevis at the bottom and not an eye mount?
I confirm the bottom clevis and told him to proceed......he built the shock I received.
I think, based on his email, that he will also be bringing back the OD (Foresight budget version listed at $56!) on July 10 and will ship it then.
The cost for the above pictured YSS ME 302 395 T was $219 + $16 S&H, but Klaus explained that future orders for this shock could be a bit more since he would be hand building them in the US instead of bulk ordering them 40 at a time from Australia or SE Asia.
That seemed reasonable to me.....the more you buy, the cheaper it gets, even for dealers.
From what I understood, like Ohlins, you can have almost any feature from the above YSS Options page...
from length adjustment to a hydraulic preloader can be incorporated into any custom shock they build......for a price.
I just wanted a good solid adjustable shock that could be rebuilt or resprung and the ME 302 version seemed to fit the bill. They can fine tune the spring to your custom specs based on solo, 2 Up, or luggage loaded touring. They can tailor the response of a shock for commuting or racing.
They also sell replacement springs for existing shocks! Since I have several OEMs laying around now, I intend to send Klaus one and let him fit it with a nice progessive spring. Replacement springs are about $100, for any load rating.
He said they could do the same thing for front fork springs!
I think YSS will turn out to be a good all around resource for TR riders, Ruck, BR and Other Scooters!
"Klaus Huenecke" <email@example.com>
That's the YSS contact information, but you should wait until I've tested the shock for about a week or so to make sure the spring is in the right range, just as we did with the Ohlins shock. Even Klaus wanted some feedback before he sold more of them.
My understanding is he used the same spring specified for the Foresight.
And from what I saw on their website, he should be able to build a replacement shock for virtually ANY scooter or motorcycle once he knows the total loaded weight, the over all length of the shock, the travel (length of the exposed rod) and the size and style of the top and bottom mounts.