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 Post subject: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:19 pm 
So, I think I've F'ed up and got a short case engine. I thought I was getting a long case because the wheels are 13". Comparing pictures of short and long cases now, it seems long case have three bolts on top of the variator/CVT cover and short cases only have two. Mine only has two :pissed:

I've already ordered a Killer Scooter mount and I read on another thread that short cases won't work with this mount.

Can anyone confirm the length of the swingarm on either so I can measure mine?

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:19 pm 
Ok, after digging around some more, I found the measurments to what seems like a short case. Says on here that the distance from mount to shock mount on a short case is 16.5 inches. The one I have measures 18". Crossing my fingers that the Killer Scooter mount works!

http://www.rcepi.com/gy6_engine.htm

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Maybe this should be a sticky. This is the only resource I've seen that shows the measurements of a Shortcase. Apparently you just can't go by wheel size anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:48 pm 
More comparisons/resources

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:41 pm 
What is the advantage/disadvantage to a long case over short case?

Also Ive heard that Bum's mounts are compatible with the short case. You shouldnt have any trouble selling a ks mount.


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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:17 pm 
Don't know if this will help. I know it's just the covers to the crankcase but it does have the measurments. Sorry about the big pics.
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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:46 pm 
bmbass wrote:
What is the advantage/disadvantage to a long case over short case?


The largest wheel you can fit on a short case is a 10 inch, which would be cool if you like the stock look, but the 130/90-10 (stock tire size) is too big to fit.

Also, a lot of people like that stretched out look, which the long case more easily facilitates.

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:57 pm 
Thanks scribble, that helps.

Colin - I thought that was the case too about the wheels. However, there's someone here in IL that bought the same brand I have (BKM) and it came with 13" wheels on his short case.

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:22 pm 
what do you need on top of the short case engine to make it work for a swap.
everyone has long cases, and swap out the whole tire, or get a donor scooter and change everything from engine to shocks.
if I foudn a great deal on a gy6 short case.... what else do i need to make it work!

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:30 pm 
besides the ATR modification

that's the first I've seen of a disc brake gy6 like that

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:43 pm 
I have some dope 12" wheels that I am pretty sure are for the short case; they look exactly like the wheels that Killer Scooter sells.

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:45 am 
so with a short case you need ot buy a rear wheel?

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 Post subject: Re: Length of shortcase vs longcase
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:25 pm 
I own the 16" gy6 setup and everything is bigger and stronger on it. My buddy's 13 gy6 with quite a bit done won't keep up with mine in basic stock form. But alot is different and hard to find. But would be worth the money as gearing is way better...


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 Post subject: GY6 Short Case vs. Long Case
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:29 pm 
What is a difference between short case and long case gy6 and its mounting? Why everyone goes for a long case engine?


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 Post subject: Re: GY6 Short Case vs. Long Case
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:31 pm 
Short case only fit 10" wheels

The long cases can go to 13" wheels.

Long case stretch out the wheel base more.

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 Post subject: Re: GY6 Short Case vs. Long Case
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:22 am 
and all the mount kits are designed for the longcase

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