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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject:

A rear frame lengthend at the front mounting points. But I also think you should sell front frames with the front half of the neck (behind the front tire) welded up..

But most of my frame dimensions are good the way I have them, and I most likely won't change that.

But if you could do something "bolt-in" for behind the front wheel. That, I would definatly buy! Even if I had to drill holes in my nice powdercoated frame. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject:

Nice work, I like how the side plates keep some of the original look of the ruck mounts, coming along very nicely Cool
What is the plan for the gas tank (I'm impataint, I know Laughing) ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject:

amazing looking stuff crazy shit if you ask me damn
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject:

but if the ruck does get hung up on speed bumps, i have a semi-flawless solution:
RAMP!
haha i do it just for fun though.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject:

LiteW8: Well, any of those things can easily be done by just shipping your frame pieces over here Wink You could even ship your frame over, i could get the powder stripped off, do the mods, and then have it re-coated for you, and send it back... turnaround would be fairly fast.... just a thought Wink

bowery: You'll just have to wait for the gas tank... haha! Its probably not what anyone is expecting though, but the plans are already made for its location..

rollin: Thanks! Smile

wg2007: actually, i was thinking of mounting some strips on the bottom, like the old skateboard protective strips... so if it has to skid over something like a speedbump, it won't touch/hurt the frame, only replaceable plastic. I might have them made out of teflon or something Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject:

I'd just have you order me a frame that can be sent to your shop so you can get to work on a clean slate.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject:

Dr.EZP wrote:
NICE! But, if I may be so bold, why so low? I guess that's what the client wants? Cause, seriously, that thing is like a billimeter from the ground. One rock and BLAM!


I guess you've never seen dumped Honda/Acura's before Shocked lol.

Coming together quite nicely. Stance on it looks tuff!
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject:

Under the seat or as ballest? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing not going to be a Heinikin keg is it?

You know I have been wondering about the front shocks for a while, is your new wheel going to be smaller? It kind of looks like the way it is, it might hit the top if it is compressed. I was thinking this stuff when I saw it but there was too much drama for a bit so I forgot to ask<shrug>. And I just think you have the idea of what your going to do anyway (but clue us in please).
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject:

SJ: Clean slates are always good slates Smile Whenever you're ready Wink

bowery: The wheel is the same size, but the tire will be smaller... the Ruckus got some tires that are like half-offroad/half-on-road, so they are HUGE. Once the smaller tire is put on the wheel, it'll have plenty of clearance. Also, there is so much weight on the back of this thing, that the front likely won't be compressing TOO much. As for the fuel tank, no, no Heini Kegs... It'll be a bit more hidden than that. The fuel tank isn't what i want to be showing off with this project Wink And no, that doesn't mean it''ll be ballast... the ballast weight cannot be variable like that, otherwise the balance will change all the time.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject:

ComposiMo wrote:
As for the fuel tank, no, no Heini Kegs... It'll be a bit more hidden than that. The fuel tank isn't what i want to be showing off with this project Wink


stock tank? <do i win something if thats right? Cool

2nd guess would be.......the rear frame Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject:

ComposiMo wrote:
SJ: Clean slates are always good slates Smile Whenever you're ready Wink


I'll commission some stuff after you are done with this project and your own ride. I don't want anything getting in the way of seeing these things come to life.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject:

ComposiMo wrote:
ratt: $10k?...


OK, was I a tad low? $20k???

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject:

wg2007: Haha! No, not the stock tank... and not the rear frame.. but you ARE getting closer... Razz

SJ: not a problem... but nothing will come in the way of these things being rather lively Wink haha!

ratt: Wow, well not that high... but higher than 10... so somewhere in the middle would be about right. I don't know exactly though, the scoot isn't done yet... lol!
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject:

5/21/08

Well, i guess you could call today the "how to build your own lowered seat frame for WAY less than you'll pay for one of the 'uber jdm' frames" day... haha!


The welder was being occupied today doing other things, so not a whole lot got done on the Ruckus... but i DID get a little bit done.

First off, i've been playing with various ways to mount this radiator. The size is perfect for fitting in the frame, so i think its going to go something like this:




I'm going to be removing that crossmember there, and creat a more elegant mounting solution, but this is close to what will wind up being permanant. ALso, i'll be relocating the filler/cap/external reservoir to right under the seat.

Anyway, onto the seat frame!

Here is the stock frame... its almost unecessarily tall.






So, lets fix that! Smile

The first thing you'll want to do, is cut off the rear mounts...

One second they are there...




Then they are not!




Then, smooth it all down to make it look nice!






Then, before we even really measure anything, we'll cut the front legs off at a set point, so that the cut-off legs are the exact same length... this makes duplicating all of your cuts and making sure everything is level, a whole lot easier. Also, if you drop them and get which side you have mixed up, it won't cause you more time in measuering to make sure you have the sides correct. In this case, i also labelled the legs anyway, leg "A" and leg "B" with a sharpie marker.

So, time for the first cut!




And that was easy! Smile




So now, we can set the frame on the Ruck, and see how we like it...




This is good, but i want it lower... so, its time to trim a tab.




There, that was easy Smile

Then, i leveled the seat frame, and measured the distance from the top bolt hole to the cut on the leg, then used that length and cut down the legs that i cut off earlier so that i would have the perfect length legs...






Here she is with a seat on, and the lower tube tack welded..




Now, you can see how the seat MIGHT sit next to the motor... i'm really not excited by how high this seat still is... i may wind up building a frame from scratch to lower the seat even more, and then just put this seat frame on my own Ruckus or something.






So yea, the seat is still too high (IMHO), but thats all for today!
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject:

What about molding the seat into the frame? That would get it real low.
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